I am actually enjoying the ongoing debate on the comment sections , i think i have answers. BUT BUT, i like how you guys praise WF for its clazy customizations animations ETC. aagh WP is still my go to hahaha

I'm looking into learning how to develop websites with Webflow as a side hustle/skill to have but my main concern is finding clients. I don't see anybody really address this but WordPress has a significant chunk of the market and I'm wondering if that makes it more difficult to be the guy selling his skills in webflow as opposed to WordPress. Would it be too niche to start my web building journey with webflow?

This is really useful thanks

I'm worried about using Webflow because the Webflow CMS seems impossible for clients to learn. WordPress is insanely easy for people to learn and you can set up pages so they can update things in a blog-like fashion. I don't want to set anyone up with Webflow and have them get pissed because they cant figure out how to update simple things or make a blog post.

I also don't think Webflow can ever become mainstream as long as it remains self-hosted. Switching hosting and switching to a severely restricted hosting solution like Webflow is impossible for so many businesses with established websites.

Great video. Thanks! webflow is my favorite but ecommerce on it is pure shit! Currently im experimenting with headless stores. Can you perhaps do a comparison with webflow headless stores vs woocommerce?

I haven't tried webflow tbh, but setting up hosting for WP is very easy these days. It is also less limited and way cheaper in general, especially when it comes to email hosting, which is usually already included. Plus with WP you own your code.

Thank you for a great video. You recommended a package for the site plan, but what is your recommended pricing package for agencies?

I just spent a few weeks with web flow. I am a newbie but did code in my lost youth. I swant something blog stykle. I have found Webflow, in it's current state, very hard to use. Here are my reasons.
Their tutorial videaos are poor. They are from a different version and era of Webflow and this means I spent hours looking for functions that are not there or placed elsewhere, or even superceded. I did not like the presentation it was too jokey (throwing pens at eachother, flirting, cooking dinner, lame puns) and often the presenter sped past stuff too quickly to even see where his mouse went. I wsas forever replaying tiny sections of the video. The presenter had a habit of saying things like set this to 12, no make that 16, no I kind of like 14. This is irritating when your repeating clips. He would say thing like OK now we discuss topic A and then explain topic B instead. All this meant what should have taken a few days took far loinger to learn.
I think they should have an intro video to the interface. I did not find this properly explained in the 101 Course. The interface is strange, for example, if you were looking to for CCS preview, would youb even think of looking under the help icon? That's where you will find it, at least in the design mode, but not in the edit mode.
They have something called "Webflow University". Some of the tutorial content is found elsewhere. For some reason teh University and the Webflow product both have home pages called "Dashboard" . The site does not indicate a difference between the two and I found it hard to navigate easily between the two within their pages, I had to save two favorites and work that way. There is a general lack of clarity in their own webdesign. yes it's flashy but the basics have not been covered. I still think the actual product os very good and powerful though. They do warn users that tehy are in some kind ofvtransition phase.

I have buttons on the lhs of the designer which I cannot access, they hide when I hover. I also have a known bug, where your pages decide to slowly scroll down, until a reload.
In the design panel it took me some days to realise that the little circles were actually vital menus and so were some ordinary looking text items. This held me back – an intro to the interface would have helped.
They have a forum but most of my posts were not replied to.

I simply do not understand what Webflow means by Rich text. They make a distinction between this and paragraphs. I really could not see myself writing essay style content directly into the site, so yesterday I abandoned webflow and returned to Word. I am looking again at WordPress. It seems much more sensible in it's layout. I am not having these issues.

One major plus about wordpress for me is that you can build without even thinking about using a page builder. Not the case in webflow, obviously. And another big point is the theming system of wordpress and lack thereof with webflow. this decouples your website's appearance from your data. want to redesign the site? use or build a new theme. you can't do this in webflow. if you want to start over with the design, you're starting with (and paying for) a whole new site. it's hard to fathom that a tool with extensive focus on CMS would do this as it defeats part of the purpose of having a cms in the first place. the lack of flexibility is crazy to me for how expensive it is as a platform.

webflow is an amazing product, though. the page builder is impeccable and im glad it exists, but idk i guess my work over the years has just pulled me to projects with more coding so i never got the hang of it like that. it will be interesting to see how the company evolves with more competition like framer in years to come

I work in a webdev firm as a web developer. We never use page builders and when we have to look after a site that has one its more of a pain than anything else to work around it. Obviously we do it if they have already gone that way or really want it.. only happens now and again.. the customer is always right! But it slows us down and restricts what we can easily do. A developer is normally expected to work with core tools .. html, css (and frameworks) JS and php. These will give you full flexibility to deliver whatever the client wants. And WP makes it easy because of its dynamic nature.. plus ACF. Pages can be made within literally minutes.

Hi, great video. question. Can you build on your own account and then download the site to another clients Webflow account? We build using wordpress on our server and then move the site over to the clients hosting account like WP Engine or Siteground. thanks